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Chronokinetic Time Travel Discussion.


Ok none of my friends will discuss this with me and you people seem smart.

If you went back in time to lets use this example...

A girl asked me out in grade 9, and i thought she was joking because no one ever likes me. So i said no because i thought it was some kind of mean trap and said no. Then I learned that she did like me for real. And lets say i could travel through time, if i went back and told myself that she wasnt joking i wouldnt have to go back in time to change anything. Which inturn would put me in my original spot. So I would travel back in time and warn myself again and again and again for all eternity because nothing is changing.


Does anyone have a way around that?

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If you tell your self what to do or take your selfs spot then you could change it but the thing is you wouldnt know how the rest of life turns out after you meet her so you could mess something up or return and not know wtf happened but thats just the logical speaking now my speaking yeah if you do everything right then return its possible that only that one even will be changed

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See the way I figure it is if someone almost completely Unrelated did the switching and gave a note to me, telling me, to tell them to go back in time and change it again. Do you think that would work?Let me try a diagram



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The dotted line represents the theoretical alternate course of action.
a is where the mistake occured
b is where the time travel occurs the rest is Just arrows

-- Edited by Pungaboy at 18:09, 2007-09-19

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Hmmm i suppose if you left your past self some hint and then left without altering anything else then yea evrything should work out fine.

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If tell yourself to say yes you would have created no reason to ravel bake in the future. It is The grandfather parodox.

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Yeah but Ive realized something its weird once i think i know something i learn something new about myself and my powers but anyway Im learning how to cancel out the whole mess up th future thing and so I think once Im completly skilled at my Chronokinesis i willl be able to not only travel back in time but Also The futere so far i realized that time is like a maze of webs and when I close my eyes I can faintly see each of those threads connecting to different ponts in time in peoples lifes, events of the world and such i dont know exactly who or what I just know and see them but Its thousands upon thousands of the strings its not overwhelming neither its just hard to focus on anyone rightnow i cany do anything with them at my current ability but once i understand that missing concept that scientist have been trying to discover then i will be able to fully control time.

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Can you affect these threads?


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so you have chrono and it sound like you have a good understanding of it. well i only have a little experience could you post some techs that qould be nice thx

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I can do chrono well but no heavy time travel. If you want to alter time you would listen to a steady ticking sound like a clock or metronome and focus on the spaces in the sound, making them longer. To shorten time do the exact opposite try making more ticks and less space.

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i can do this but how about time travell, i mean yeah this is wicked awsome to make kids thing you have your speed boost when really your just zoning in on your watches ticking and performing chrono. so a tech on time travel would help. thx.

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Time travel would be kinda tricky. And I dont know how to do it.

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I can effect the threads but not at my current level i really dont have any specific tech's right now because rly i discovered it all on accident but I seriously think theres more to my family than Im being told

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I actually have a comment on your time traveling theory, if you don't mind. If you don't like it then you can message me or just post back your disappointment, and I'll apologize. But here it is: ok, you go back in time and you tell yourself yes. All you will be doing, is altering the events in THAT version of you's future. When YOU return to the future, it will still be the same as when you left it. At least, thats my theory. Because, you didn't change YOUR futur, you just changed another version you's future

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my theory is it cant happen you will kill yourself. or you will clone yourself. ok heres how i see it you go there tell him to get the girl. bam. ok now that you have the girl you have no reasojn to be there and you wont know why your there. either your stuck there because you have no recalection of what your doing or the laws time travel will just kill you for being dumb enough to try this for self gain.

kinda harsh sorry but thats how i see it. thx.

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runetic your thoery dose make some sence but by him getting the girl maybe that alters all events after the point in which he said no so time will be the same up to the point where he had to make his deciion now this is where i belive th ewhole threads come into play i think they are not only links to different points in time but actually alternate futures so maybe or maybe not things might change depending on what happens.

Zahandras your thoery im sorry makes almost no sence because instead of him goin someone else would and technically if that other person did do it then he would b in the current timeline so any events that occur he would or would not be aware off I think he would be aware of all changes.

Since birth Ive went against the laws of the universe so time travel i think wouldnt be a big problem for me with smore practice especially since I really should be dead right now so Time Travel again I see as nothing more than learning how to ride a bike just gotta put in th effort

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I think I would become the me from the alternate time line in the future.

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All that are trying to alter events assume that there's only one timeline, when in fact no one knows the true nature of the 4th. Could be tied to multiple realities. Could create a new reality as soon as you change something past or future. There's just no way to tell.

However. Assuming there is only one timeline for this reality, if one were to go into the past and alter it, things become really crazy. Basically, the you that went back will stop existing because once the change is made then there is no reason for the you that went back to actually go back. At that point that you stops existing and from there you can't speculate what happens next because the possibilities are infinite.

Just accept the past (and future) as done and over with. If anything that was significant and/or happened long enough ago in your past didn't happen the way it did, in most cases you would NOT be the person you are right now.

-- Edited by archaeum at 00:34, 2007-09-24

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Also another possibility with the one timeline assumption is the Ouroboros theory. If you go back to change something, something will have to happen to make you in the future go back. Usually that means whatever you tried to change won't work, and will just happen in a different way, thus nothing will change in your past, present, or future.

Example: First half of The Time Machine by H.G. Wells
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Another example: Red Dwarf - "Ouroboros" The crew of the Red Dwarf encounter a bridge between timelines. Temporal shenanigans ensue.

Bear in mind this is an old British BBC comedy, but the concept is still there.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=q6MBX3oKny8
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GUn0VWW9oWM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZrkorvZYzR8


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Very good theroy.

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Personally I'd rather focus on trying to manipulate the flow of time itself. Local dilation would be a very interesting thing to play with :P

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indeed.

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Ok its ver hard to explain this but I will try my best...

Were in the Present by going back to the past that past becomes the present then the present we came from becomes the future so then by altering things in the present which i will now refer to as past present events in future present can and will be altered no matter how significant or insignificant What ever changes occur cannot be stoped. Now those changes in a way are preset they are what i call Alternate Timelines(This is what I think those threads i see are) Alternate Timelines are events that happen after the specific thing is changed in the past present so technically these Threads are formed from Past and Future the way I see it there is no present because we are always advancing forward and unless we stop that would then become present what were currently doing now because all motion is still nothing is advancing except the person thats stopping time. So far thats what I have peiced together.

Archaeum Im sorry but there is no such thing as the past and future is done with well in the case of a Chronokinetic with that high of ability The past can be changed and the future can be altered you should know this since you watched "heroes" am I right lol, but in all seirousness Pass and Future can both be changed but the Past is harder than future I seriously see both as easy though I basically go against alot of things Ive been brought back to life, not incinerated, and nothign bad happend after using chronokinesis (When I preformed the time skip) now all I have to do Is teleport about 10 times succesfully and I basically broke all the laws Scientific and non-scientific note I have no super powered memory or body analization what so ever that I know of which would allow me to preform Chronokinesis nor Teleportation at skilled levels All I have is my belief

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thats pretty much what i said and people said i was aretard.

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That's fantastic. Document it.

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maybe i will!
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No that wasn't a cynical remark. Just trying to make sure you stop hypothesizing and actually do something. That's everyone's problem here, to an extent; no one can take a stand because we are too unsure. But if you've got enough experience to counter being ground into the dirt by the public, then hell man, the whole world will be all ears.

And of course we all will say something similar and yes that makes us all somewhat hypocritical, but it can't be helped. We're all going to be the firsts, and that's a huge weight to shoulder. But for heaven's sake BE CAREFUL. Don't mutilate yourself by dilating only part of your body through spacetime :D

That's at both Zahandras and Fifth. And anyone else in a similar position for going public with anything. (Having documentation automatically sets you down that path, whether you want anyone to find out or not.)

Stay safe folks! :)

-- Edited by archaeum at 01:18, 2007-09-25

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oh sorry.......

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lol well im not going public any time soon but i do document anything that happens that isnt normal daly i lost my video camera so i canot record things such as me making contact with fire and not being burned or stopping time but somehow i dont think anyone notices that time is stoped or being slowed down or sped up when i do it

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Hey, hey. No. I see what you did there. How can you properly and indisputably document without real footage? Excuses much? I know I'm being harsh but it's gotta be said. I'm not calling anyone a liar, but writing things in a diary/journal is VERY not the same. :(

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Yeah I know I do need real footage but I do document any thing drastic that happens but right now im suprised at the little time i do have even with the ability to use chronokinesis i can only use it to buy in total about 30 minutes of extra time a day due to all the focus and how hectic my life is I just try to maintain my comosure and not slaughter people but As soon as the weekend hits I try my best to do reseachr and such as well as when i have some spare time when im not doing homework or talking to my girlfriend Chronokinesis while helpful Im limirited in my current ability because of the way my schedule is but once football season is over for me i will have about 3 hours mre time to devote to my study and honening of my abilities but I assure u everything that occures to me is 100% real and unfalsified

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